Taika Waititi is really ready for you to buy into the Taikaverse
29.11.2023 - 18:45
/ polygon.com
/ Taika Waititi
/ Michael Fassbender
It’s been a busy year for Taika Waititi. As an in-demand producer, he’s had a lot of projects hit screens in 2023, including season 2 of Our Flag Means Death (which he starred in as well as producing), season 3 of Reservation Dogs, season 5 of What We Do in the Shadows, and the indie films Frybread Face and Me and Red, White & Brass. As a writer and director, he’s midstream on Apple TV Plus’ reboot of Terry Gilliam’s Time Bandits, with irons in the fire on everything from a Star Wars movie to a series adaptation of Charles Yu’s Interior Chinatown. And on top of it all, he has a new movie in theaters: Next Goal Wins, a sports comedy adapting the documentary of the same name about the real-life comeback of the American Samoa soccer team, after a record-breaking 31-0 World Cup qualifier loss.
Next Goal Wins is a bit of an oddity, as Waititi’s films tend to be. It’s an underdog-sports-team story that subverts the genre by suggesting its team isn’t actually good enough to compete on a major level: The players would be content to score a single goal, ever. The real-life events had Dutch coach Thomas Rongen (played in Waititi’s movie by Michael Fassbender) helping the Samoan team turn things around, but Waititi consciously avoids a white-savior narrative by turning Rongen into a disaster of a man who needs help more than he’s offering it.
And like so much of Waititi’s comedy, the film centers on self-effacing losers who operate with unearned pride — but this time out, the conventions of sports dramas require them to work for their self-esteem, too. Polygon talked to Waititi ahead of the movie’s release about its strange framing, its easygoing vibe, and above all, its place in “the Taikaverse” — Waititi’s running-gag name for the idea that every character he’s ever played is operating in the same narrative universe, linking all his acting work.
This interview has been edited for concision and clarity.
Polygon: This movie starts with you introducing the story as a fourth-wall-breaking priest with a big walrus mustache and fake teeth. The sense of humor in his bookends feels radically different from the rest of the movie. Why did you choose him to frame the story?
Taika Waititi: It’s just telling people that you’re not getting the true story from the documentary. [laughs] I started the movie with a ridiculous character telling people, “I’m taking a lot of liberties with this true story. If you want to see the true story, just watch the documentary, because it’s already been made.” It’s really just telling you what to expect. Also — I love putting myself in films. I think that’s kind of fun, a filmmaker presenting his film. Also, I think I’m one of the funniest people I’ve ever met. So why not put myself in